Comments on: Duceppe Answer On C61

By: Abandoned Stuff by Saskboy :: Bill C-61: The Canadian DMCA Dies Due to Technicality

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:56:52 +0000

[...] MPs that are for fair copyright for Canadians. So far, that would mean electing NDP, or Green MPs. Bloc MPs are not so clear on where they stand, with Duceppe making it clear that he’s not really on the side of Canadians (but then, when [...]

By: Saskboy

Saskboy — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:13:11 +0000

It’s especially sad that the Bloc don’t understand the copyright is a key issue in Canadian culture, and the survival of Quebecois culture.

By: Patrick Tanguay: Duceppe Answer On C61 : Appropriation Art

Patrick Tanguay: Duceppe Answer On C61 : Appropriation Art — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:59:59 +0000

[...] Patrick Tanguay: Duceppe Answer On C61 I got a letter on friday (Word document by itself in an email, no text at all ) answering my letter to Duceppe concerning the crapiness of C-61, I’m wondering about this part : [...]

By: ktron

ktron — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:01:52 +0000

An idealistic organization of the Bloc’s type will by default favour controls. They will support further controls under the mistaken idea that they will one day be defining those controls.

Assuming your translations to be accurate, the Bloc’s apparent interest in criminalizing ISPs fits in well with this misguided ideology. The dominant ISPs are already online with the “control agenda” and criminalizing smaller ISPs is the fastest route to their desired goal of internet oligarchy. Perhaps the biggest irony in the Bloc’s stance is that granting more copyright control to big conglomerates will rapidly further the already serious marginalization of non-U.S cultures.

By: I never knew » Blog Archive » Copyright and Net Neutrality

I never knew » Blog Archive » Copyright and Net Neutrality — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:54:25 +0000

[...] it starts with: ISPs are fucking with our internets and causing the net neutrality talk. And since according to some ISPs need to be held accountable for what goes through their service. Then it could be said that; [...]

By: Bored

Bored — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:23:58 +0000

I think they mean that the ISPs get money from people who pay them for internet connectivity, and then those people use the internet that they pay the ISPs for to download stuff.
Which makes perfect sense; obviously all anyone ever does online is download music and movies, why else would anyone ever pay for an internet connection?
Let’s just criminalize the use of the internet. Problem solved!

By: Trails

Trails — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:09:42 +0000

Got here from a link from Michael Geist’s site.

Interesting read, it seems the Bloc is even more spectacularly out of touch than anyone.

“And so, even though the main winners of illegal download are the internet providers who charge money to those who download, nothing in the bill restrains that practice. Only consumers are perceived as breaking the law and creators, to have their rights respected, have to do the work themselves.”

I have no idea how ISP’s benefit from illegal downloading. There just isn’t a logical connection, even a small one, leet alone enough to substantiate them being the “main beneficiary”. The main beneficiary of illegal downloading is the person doing the downloading.

It seems the Bloc’s in the pocket of lobbyist wanting regulation to force ISP’s to police their customers’ internet usage.

So far, only the NDP seem to have called this bill what it is, the liberals are hedging, and the Bloc are off in la la land.

By: Alexandre

Alexandre — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:43:12 +0000

Though I wish that least one of the parties were to be more critical of the bill, the notion that there could be public discussion about the bill is somewhat reassuring. Getting the whole issue of copyright buried is probably the last thing we want.
And, to be honest, I go back and forth as to what the best approach might be to significant changes in Canadian copyright. Maybe the old legislation could be maintained but there could be pro-citizen additions to this legislation. Or the copyright legislation should be rebuilt from the ground up. Or, perhaps, we can tweak Prentice’s C-61 until the (in)famous “consumer to corporate consumer” balance is satisfying for most people. Seriously, I’m not completely sure what the best procedure might be.

By: Daniel Haran

Daniel Haran — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:23:27 +0000

A rather lame response, but I’m glad you took the time to write.

By: Heri

Heri — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:59:36 +0000

this is why i’ll never be a politician. think one thing, do the opposite, and try to do games and plays in the background.